Audio transcription of my conversation with Alton Sturgis in the Norton Simon Museum

[57:50.950 --> 57:59.230]  I don't agree with it, because like you're making the best of your life for the purpose of this idea of an extension beyond your life.

[58:00.170 --> 58:02.970]  Because it's like, oh, like I'm doing this good.

[58:03.030 --> 58:08.270]  Like I'm holding onto what good I have so I can be better in another extension of life.

[58:09.450 --> 58:14.390]  Because you don't believe, because like why can't you just trust that the good in your life is present for the sake of your life?

[58:14.550 --> 58:17.530]  Yeah, and be content with that instead of having to hit a goal.

[58:18.030 --> 58:19.350]  Yeah, it's a just goal.

[58:19.350 --> 58:22.210]  I feel like it fits with a lot of people, and like the idea of entropy.

[58:22.330 --> 58:26.030]  People need entropy. They can't stay in one spot. They need to grow.

[58:26.870 --> 58:29.590]  They need to have progress, hit some kind of abstract goal.